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October 25, 2002
ConnectingIt isn't always ideal



Warning: this is yet another disconnected ramble.

I never publicly thanked Dorothea for her strong defense of me in my recent confrontation with a well known weblogger. I did privately, but didn't want to publicly because, well, I wanted to let the whole thing just die out.

However, now is the time for me to thank Dorothea, not so much for speaking out for me, but for speaking out for, to paraphrase Dorothea, the kind of talk that makes you uncomfortable. Stripping away social politeness, dropping the niceties. Yelling fire in a room full of fireman.

A little digression: You know why Vietnam ended? I got into an argument once with someone in California about this. He said it was because people like him (and myself) protested it when we were younger. Thirty years ago, I would have believed him, and marveled at the power of my flowerchild-like fingertips. However, today, I know that the reason the war ended wasn't because people like me got sick of the war. It was because people who were not like me got sick of the war. When almost every family in this country had received at least one body bag. When people at home, watching news on TV watched yet another film about the atrocities committed in Nam, by both sides. When middle America wearied of the blood and the cost and the horror, that's when the war ended.

This all leads me to a thought: You want to change this country? Convince someone who is totally unlike yourself to want this change. Then you have a chance.

Tomorrow big anti-Iraqi invasion demonstrations throughout the world. I think it's great that people are making a show of solidarity about this issue, and will be attending a rally here in St. Louis. However, I hope people remember that though great big group hugs among people of like mind might make us feel good, they won't change minds. Calling President Bush "King George" or "Shrub" won't change minds, either.

You want to change minds? Find your way into the kind of mind you want to change, and speak the language it can understand. That'll change minds.

Well, bit of a ramble. Time for bed. Big rally day tomorrow.



Posted by Bb at October 25, 2002 10:05 PM


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I'm on board, hope we can get this train rolling.

Isn't St Louis where the wagons trains rolled out of ?

Posted by: Loren on October 25, 2002 11:39 PM

"You want to change minds? Find your way into the kind of mind you want to change, and speak the language it can understand. That'll change minds."

An extraordinarily insightful observation. This truly is the way to effect change, though it's infinitely more difficult than attending a self-congratulatory hug fest. (That's not to say that anti-war demonstrations -- whether against war in Vietnam or Iraq -- aren't useful. It's important that those in government realize there is opposition to their plans. But, as your post makes clear, demonstrations don't change minds.)

Thank you.

Posted by: Jonathon Delacour on October 26, 2002 12:06 AM

Yes :)

Posted by: Karl on October 26, 2002 10:41 AM

Loren, I'm afraid after attending today's 'peace rally' here in St. Louis, that one can't count on that community. I hope that the other demonstrations were more successful.

Jonathon, thanks for your words. Unforunately, no warm hug today.

Thanks to you, too, Karl. Work to do, eh?

Posted by: Shelley aka Bb on October 26, 2002 05:53 PM

Hmmm.... guess I should read and comment in ascending(?) chronological order! LOL... I just posted a comment to a more recent post Shelley.

In it I talked about (a)not being like you, (b)changing minds, and (c)something someone said in the St. Louis rally that could spark a change of mind in me.

Honestly? If I lived there I would NOT have gone to the rally. I would have shut down long before the best speakers came on. And I would have missed hearing the things that you spoke of. So I guess not only did the speakers spark this, you did too Shelley.

What you said in this post is very insightful. And... it looks like you practice what you preach here too! I'll definitely consider the things you relayed from the rally. But, um, sorry... I don't go for group hugs. :-)

Posted by: DD on October 27, 2002 06:31 AM

Well said.

Posted by: Trickster on October 29, 2002 12:00 PM


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